cotx9:

cerebralzero:

bogleech:

cerebralzero:

https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html

http://www.npr.org/2014/06/05/319072156/guns-kept-people-alive-during-the-civil-rights-movement

http://www.amazon.com/Negroes-Gun-Black-Tradition-Arms/dp/161614839X

Actual evidence suggests otherwise. And if you are so “aware of police brutality” you must also be aware that giving police more power isn’t going to help. Despite the fact that you argue both of these points.

The state is racist and thus giving the state more power means more systematic racism. I suspect you are at least slightly  aware of this(and if you aren’t than your just plain dim).

The manner in which you write about black people getting shot indicates that you relish this rather than are abhorred by it.

It’s time for you to admit you yourself are a racist. Even if you are not self aware enough to realize it.

Gotta love how almost every gunfucker attempts the old “no, UR the racist!!!” schtick. How do you even pretend to see “relish” in obvious anger and disgust? And how does anything I’ve ever said conceivably translate into giving police more power? What? Where did THAT come from?

Newsflash: police are legally a form of civilian. Their access to guns should also be regulated and require far more training and discipline than it currently does.

You are right, at least, that the state is racist. I’m glad you miraculously understand that. Unfortunately, one of the ways in which the state is racist is that it gives YOU, the white conservatives, too much leeway to amass deadly firepower, while treating minority gun owners completely different, and none of your counterpoints or links address that fact.

I see a lot of words and yet, I don’t see any retort to gun control being racist, or really anything to refute what I said. What I do see is now you are getting very defensive. 

To elaborate the way that it became clear that you relish black people getting shot is: due to the level of detail in which you write about it. You seem quite amped up to hear of a black person “getting their head blown off”. Rather than being bothered  by this act of violence, you find it to be exhilarating. it’s clear that you are only feigning disgust about it.

The point about giving police more power relates to the fact that police(whether state or federal) enforce gun control. Thus more gun control=more police power.

You are very good at ad hominem and other common fallacies  but not so good at making a legitimate argument. For instance, your making quite a lot of straw man claims here and seem to be under the impression that somehow despite the large black anarchist flag flying at the top of my page I am somehow a “Conservative”. Might want to pay that some thought. 

I don’t support gun control partially because it doesn’t work and also  because as you now readily admit(reread your own last paragraph), it is racist. It allows only for white people to own/carry guns under some circumstances(like this one). And that’s what you are saying you support.

Gun rights are not a privilege, they are a right and thus they are for everyone regardless of race, sex, gender or sexuality. This is what you are against.

I talk about the mass murder of minorities by police in blunt detail because it is horrible and needs to be described as such. What’s the alternative you think is “not racist” exactly? To tip-toe around the fact that police are getting away with viciously slaughtering human beings based on the color of their skin?Uh-uh. Every single person needs to understand that it’s brutal, ugly, grotesque, and a form of slow systematic genocide our country is signing off on every day.

SO sorry I don’t dress it up in nice language for Captain Gunzo the Gunologist’s squeamish little white heart.

And this connection you’re inventing between murderous cops and “gun control” is a BIG fucking stretch.

Gun regulations are not the reason why it keeps happening at all.

They are not what these killer cops believe they are enforcing.

They are simply using weapon possession or even PERCEIVED weapon possession as an excuse to say they were “defending themselves” in court….and you know who fucking defends them? Do you KNOW who says people like George Zimmerman were just exercising their rights to “protect themselves” and don’t deserve any punishment? DO YOU FUCKING NOTICE who rallies to defend every cop who pumps an innocent teen full of bullets?

Because it sure as shit isn’t the anti-gun left. It’s you. You, you, you, and your buddies. The doomsday preppers, the NRA members, the weapon “hobbyists,” the people LIKE YOU, who think all we ever need are more guns and looser gun regulations, are the people who represent and defend murderous police officers.

Even  with all your big talk about guns protecting your liberties, NONE of you fuckers, not a single “gun rights” organization, extended any aid to the people of Ferguson or Baltimore in their fight against corrupt, militarized police.

Instead, you were the ones calling beaten citizens “thugs” and insisting the police need all that firepower to fight “terrorists” and “gangs” and other “threats” that also, incidentally, are overwhelmingly blamed on minorities.

Even if you yourself disagree with that, the gun culture you defend and stand for is undeniably, irrevocably a part of white supremacy and white domestic terrorism. You can’t squirm out of that.